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Apple acknowledges AI errors in latest fix
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Chris
2025-01-07 08:04:19 UTC
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The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Alan
2025-01-07 08:18:49 UTC
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The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?

You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
Chris
2025-01-07 13:36:16 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?
You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.
Alan
2025-01-07 17:08:01 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?
You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.
Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".

I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.

Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.
*Hemidactylus*
2025-01-08 02:31:12 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?
You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.
Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".
I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.
Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.
Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.

My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly
mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search
results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the
wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
cake.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/

But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.
Alan
2025-01-08 02:58:05 UTC
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The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?
You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.
Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".
I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.
Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.
Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.
I never suggested you should be ON that treadmill.

My point is that Apple's AI efforts shouldn't play a role in one's decision.
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My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly
mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search
results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the
wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
cake.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/
But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.
Hey.. ...I had an iPhone 8 until about a month ago.
Your Name
2025-01-08 03:14:17 UTC
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The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
Why?
You can opt out of using it if you prefer.
There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.
Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".
I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.
Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.
Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.
My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly
mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search
results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the
wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
cake.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/
But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.
The real problem is that so many people are trusting this over-hyped AI
garbage for important things, such as medical diagnosis. Thanks to the
useless nature of AI and its easily made horible mistakes, there will
be LOTS of people going undiagnosed and LOTS of people being
misdiagnosed. X-( Some of these places claim they have real people
checking the AI results, so what's the point of bothering with the
useless AI in the first place?!

Like "smart" technology that never worked properly either, AI is just
another pointless fad used to make money by the greedy tech giants and
startups.

unknown
2025-01-07 14:42:55 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors. "AI" is
nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.

For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything. I will read
and make my own conclusions. I don't need a digital Magic 8 Ball to
tell me what to do.
Post by Chris
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
"AI" in general is already a white elephant. Billions of dollars
invested with NO return at all. Microsoft has even given instructions
on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new Windows
PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your choice.

And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
year. It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.

"AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago. Yes,
28 years ago. It started in 1997.
Your Name
2025-01-07 21:23:38 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors. "AI" is
nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.
For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything. I will
read and make my own conclusions. I don't need a digital Magic 8 Ball
to tell me what to do.
Post by Chris
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
"AI" in general is already a white elephant. Billions of dollars
invested with NO return at all. Microsoft has even given instructions
on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new
Windows PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your
choice.
And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
year. It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.
"AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago. Yes,
28 years ago. It started in 1997.
Yep. AI is utter crap and simply the latest bandwagon for companies to
jump onto by having "AI" in everything (who needs an AI kettle!?) to
con fools into pointlesly upgrading since "Smart" things wasn't as
successful as they'd hoped / hyped - no surprise there either. Same
with idiotic "self-driving" cars. They'll never work properly either.
Alan
2025-01-08 00:02:45 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors.  "AI" is
nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.
For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything.  I will
read and make my own conclusions.   I don't need a digital Magic 8
Ball to tell me what to do.
Post by Chris
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
"AI" in general is already a white elephant.  Billions of dollars
invested with NO return at all.  Microsoft has even given instructions
on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new
Windows PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your
choice.
And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
year.   It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.
"AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago.
Yes, 28 years ago.  It started in 1997.
Yep. AI is utter crap and simply the latest bandwagon for companies to
jump onto by having "AI" in everything (who needs an AI kettle!?) to con
fools into pointlesly upgrading since "Smart" things wasn't as
successful as they'd hoped / hyped - no surprise there either. Same with
idiotic "self-driving" cars. They'll never work properly either.
I think AI is exactly like a lot of new technology:

First, it's always "10 years away".

Next, someone gets it working a little bit...

...and it gets hyped to the sky.

Then, people notice that it isn't working as well as they thought it
would from the hype...

...and the slamming begins.

That's where we are right now with AI.

:-)
Chris
2025-01-07 21:55:35 UTC
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Post by Chris
The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors. "AI" is
nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.
Agree.
Post by unknown
For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything. I will read
and make my own conclusions. I don't need a digital Magic 8 Ball to
tell me what to do.
Used appropriately things like chatgpt can be very useful and speed up some
tasks efficiently. I do use it for work on occasion. The problems come when
used without human supervision/involvement.
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Post by Chris
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
"AI" in general is already a white elephant. Billions of dollars
invested with NO return at all. Microsoft has even given instructions
on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new Windows
PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your choice.
Copilot has been incredibly useful for coding. A lot of software
development revolves around googling for solutions and copilot has made
that much quicker.
Post by unknown
And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
year. It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.
"AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago. Yes,
28 years ago. It started in 1997.
Y2K wasn't hype. A lot of work went into it becoming a non-event.
*Hemidactylus*
2025-01-08 02:34:08 UTC
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The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o
Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
around.
The way AI is progressing so far we will be lucky to get: “Me fiend on
Saran Kanye may me seen her’s ok?”
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